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HardToBelieve

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I've been talking to Whitesheep quite a bit recently and the subject of transactional analysis has come up.

I get the impression that there are a few 'recovering' scapegoats out there and wonder if any of you have come across this and found it helpful in understanding some aspects of our plight.

Will post again tomorrow as I am simply whacked. Always the same on Sunday nights as I spend 2 consecutive afternoons working at a job which could be likened to herding cats.

Date: 04 Feb, 2007 on 07:44 p.m.
Dee Ann

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Hard to Believe:
What exactly is transactional analysis?
The simple answer is better!
Date: 04 Feb, 2007 on 09:14 p.m.
whitesheep

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Hi Dee Ann,

I found the following site that explains it pretty well although I'm more interested in its application and HtB's experience.

http://www.itaa-net.org/

The local TA person I spoke to says that she conducts group sessions following an intensive one-on-one interview and incorporates TA in her work but its just one of her tools. I think what I need is to build a relationship with a therapist and I don't see that happening in a group setting. Peck describes psychotherapy as a sort of re-parenting relationship and that makes a lot of sense to me.

If I get this new job (haven't heard yet) they offer a good benefit program so that'll help with the cost. Once I get comfortable with someone I'll look into forming a scapegoat group. I'm praying hard about the new job but even if I don't get it, I'll look elsewhere. I got a call from the current place this morning asking if I was coming in to work this evening. Why wouldn't I? I mean, besides the fact that they treat me terribly. That's the point: anyone with even a pinch of self-respect would walk (run) from this place. I know I shouldn't be so hard on myself. It an income and I do my job well. One day at a time.

Date: 05 Feb, 2007 on 06:01 a.m.
HardtoBelieve

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Here's another link. It explains how our relationships may be conducted and can get distorted and contentious - with pictures.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/behaviors/ta.htm

Hang in there on the job front. Try to rise above the insecurities at your present place. Try to look (but not stare) colleagues in the eye with a quiet, steady and dignified look. Keep your posture upright/shoulders back, and retain a sense of humour.

Date: 05 Feb, 2007 on 10:31 a.m.
HardToBelieve

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Here is another interesting link, which has further links to some interesting (and possibly amusing) quotes

WS - I've not run away - promise. My posts to you take some time to compose (but don't feel beholden) and I need to get on with some tasks I have outstanding to do while my husband is away. Hopefully I'll be able to do some more thinking as I'm digging the garden

Date: 05 Feb, 2007 on 10:42 a.m.
HardToBelieve

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Ooops - forgot to paste it

http://www.businessballs.com/transact.htm

Date: 05 Feb, 2007 on 10:45 a.m.
whitesheep

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Thanks HtB, your links are better than mine.

"Try to look (but not stare) colleagues in the eye with a quiet, steady and dignified look. Keep your posture upright/shoulders back, and retain a sense of humour."

I really like this advice and I'll try be more conscious of how I carry myself tonight. Please don't worry; I don't feel beholden and also don't want you to feel like you're under pressure to respond to my messages. I love to hear from you and understand that being thoughtful takes time. I'll take what I can get.

Truth be told (and I wouldn't have it any other way), I'm starting to feel like I'm finally getting my life in perspective. I know I can't change my past but I'm the only one who can change my present and future. I have lots of work to do on my self but I'm trying my best and thats all I can do.

The support of this group and the members who have reached out to me is greatly appreciated.

Date: 05 Feb, 2007 on 03:01 p.m.
HardToBelieve

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Whitesheep wrote:
The local TA person I spoke to says that she conducts group sessions following an intensive one-on-one interview and incorporates TA in her work but its just one of her tools. I think what I need is to build a relationship with a therapist and I don't see that happening in a group setting. Peck describes psychotherapy as a sort of re-parenting relationship and that makes a lot of sense to me.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It seems to me that Group Therapy has special risks for scapegoats. The therapist is analysing interaction within the group. Inevitably (and rightly) the group ends up structuring itself and the relationships within it in accordance with the various individuals' 'problems'. This is what gives the therapist material to work with.

That's fine for most people who simply want to resolve a 'current' issue which is hampering their personal relationships with others. BUT, the downside for us is that we end up feeling scapegoated again. That is just re-inforcement of our issues which are far more deep-seated.

Our issues are, one might say, down at the level of 'the meaning of life'. We still have to find out that we have a right to be here, that we have a right to disagree with others and stand up for ourselves. We still have to really understand and FEEL that we have any rights at all.

You are right, look for someone who will give you that one-on-one surrogate parenting. It can be done, like a parent in terms of trust and intimacy, but structured to be within the confines of fixed sessions, (rather than ad hoc and on-call). Between the sessions we have to be prepared to feel pain, despair and sometimes real reluctance to keep going thru it. So the contract is twoway. Both parties will commit totally to the relationship for that one hour per week (or whatever) and at all other times live their own private lives, for better or worse. But whatever happens that one hour is certain, and forever (which in practice means until you are ready to fly solo, like any other person leaving home.).

The therapist is right, though, in her comment that TA is just one of a number of tools we MUST use when understanding ourselves. It has limited application until we do understand , and come to terms with, the very deep-seated damage to our self-image. Until we have done that, we cannot use tools such as TA understand how and why this happened and then rebuild our lives and relationships more positively. In other words, our problems are pretty much with the foundation of our being. Only when we have rebuilt and strengthened our foundations can we rebuild our lives and relationships.

Date: 07 Feb, 2007 on 05:56 p.m.
whitesheep

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Once again, HardtoBelieve, your advice falls on fertile ground over here. Thanks for taking the time to write.
Date: 07 Feb, 2007 on 09:26 p.m.
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