| Moving forward and headaches |
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the outsider
 ip: 88.19.115.157 |
| 1. Moving forward and headaches |
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Dear all, About 10 years ago my parents inherited my grandmas' big house. They decided to do some work in it to 'transforme' it into two houses, they gave me one house and the other to my sister. My brothers got something else. This houses are at a short walking distance from their house. Most of you will know already a bit of my story. I joined this site last automm, after coming back to my home town. Having lived 6 years abroad. I'm living in 'my house' now. For different reasons I may explain later I've decided to leave again, but this time I want to sell the house. It seems pretty straight forward, doesn't it? Well, it is not.There is a lot of emotional 'attachments' and conditions attached to this house. That's why I lived abroad renting a tinny flat, whilst I kept this empty house here. Now my sister wants to buy it, to build the houses back into a big house for her family (after all wars are about expansion. Isn't it?). So, now my parents are happy for me to go (well, more than happy, I feel they are pushing me out, giving me leafets of 'attractive' nice houses nearby,etc.) About a year ago before deciding to come back, my parents knew I was unhappy about keeping this empty house when I was living somewhere else. So they 'communicate me' that my sister may be interested in buying it from me and make it look as if she was going to do me a favor. I did a survey on the house, because I thought that it would be the most accurate and fair way to stablish a price for us both. This price was questioned and my brother-in-law (with my sister and parents approval and support) let me know that house prices were gonna go down by 20% next year, so that the house was not worth the money. The house was finally not sold because I moved back in. A year later.- This time I'm determined to go and I do want to sell the house. So, I did a new survey to see how the price had changed. Guess what? it didn't go down by 20% but it went up by 17%. My sister, brother-in-law and parents are very unhappy with the price. She says she may not buy it. I think she talks a lot to the parents about it, trying to get their support to 'push me out' for pennies or maybe to get financial help from them (because I'm so greedy. LOL) Also, my parents want this house to remain property of the family. I've been ostracised (even more) from the whole family. It's very hard to live next to her and to have to see their faces all the time and to talk quietly in my own house just in case the walls had ears(LOL again). I feel in a lot of preasure. It's hard to stand it and sometimes I just feel like agreing to whatever they want and go, but then I think that I'm not asking for anything unreasonable and I've got two young children to feed. And again I feel guilty because although the house is mine it feels as if it's not, they were so 'generous' by giving it to me because they wanted someone from the family to own it and because they wanted us to leave near them....Headaches! |
| Date: 08 Feb, 2007 on 07:55 p.m. |
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madorsad
 ip: 71.168.128.200 |
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Out I cannot imagine the strain you are under -- stick to your guns. And maybe keep lawyer involved without the family knowing. You are entitled to counsel about this. Two little ones and all this stress. "Normal" families would want to keep members close. I hope you have emotional supports outside the family. |
| Date: 08 Feb, 2007 on 10:12 p.m. |
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HardToBelieve
 ip: 62.69.36.218 |
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| Outsider You have absolutely every right to stick out for the current market price. Remember that you will need the money to buy somewhere else, and if your family want you somewhere else, then they'd better pay up. I can imagine it is really uncomfortable for you just now, but remember, as I said to Whitesheep - keep your head up and your shoulders back. When you speak to them look them in the eye. I know it's hard, but the message to them must be that you refuse to be bullied. We're all here for you I'm sure, so if it's bad, just come on here and remember you do have friends. |
| Date: 08 Feb, 2007 on 10:34 p.m. |
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the outsider
 ip: 83.60.112.215 |
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| Thanks for your support. It seems that there is a conclusion to the house business. My dad 'call me' to let me know that because sis and I were unable to agree on a price, he was going to give sis some money (sis had run and cried with real tears to him). He let me know that the price I was asking for (Market value. Survey done by pofesionals) was very high and not fair on sis. I won't go into detail of everything else that took place there and then, but luckily I manage to be angry (not usual on me, but tears will have fall on unfertile ground and probably just took me to a weeker possision were they could both had 'walked over me'). -A bit of background:- We came to live here, because my husband doesn't have any family and we thought it would be nice and good for the children to grow up near my big family. It didn't work. I have made my decision to go back to live in the UK where my husband is from, but to do so it feels as if I have to break up forever with my family of origin and it's very painful. It's one of the hardest things that I have ever done. After this argument with my parents now, in the solitude (unusually so , but children are out with dad) of my house, hot tears rolling down. I feel that I will always love them and I'm hoping that we all live long enough for me to be able to give them a love that doesn't need aproval in exchange, a love that is not needy, but mature. I know that it is a lonely and difficult road the one that I'm chosing and I hope I stick to my purpose to grow, learn, love and live a fulfilled live, meaningful for me and the ones around me. Sorry.... I'm getting quite emotional... |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 12:37 p.m. |
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the outsider
 ip: 83.60.112.215 |
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| Tomorrow my family is celebrating my nephew's birthday at my parents. I am expected to go. My brother-in-law family are coming too. I was dubious about going. Now, I'm feeling like: 'No Chance!!!!. I know that by not going, I will be giving them all confirmation that it's me difficult, bitter one. Today at this 'lovely chat' with my parents, they were saying how upset they are to see siblings arguing and not going on well, but sis was a saint, I was the one unhappy, jealous and bla, bla. I'm just not sure if I should give an excuse or just say that I wouldn't feel comfortable. |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 02:45 p.m. |
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whitesheep
 ip: 70.51.138.63 |
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| Being emotional in here Insider is nothing to apologise for. I feel for you and the difficult position you are in. At the same time, by taking care of your own well-being you give yourself and your family the chance to see and enjoy you for who you really are: a strong and loving person. Scott Peck taught me I can't love everyone but to love well those I can - starting with myself. Alice Miller taught me that my parents don't deserve my love and I'll drive myself mad with guilt and remorse by trying to love them. The best I can do is pity them for the unfortunate upbringing that made them the terrible parents that they are. These sentiments have been echoed by the good people in here whose words and support have been my blanket and pillow on very cold nights. I'm not judging you or your parents although you alone have my unqualified support. Near or far: via con dios. P.S. I hope you don't mind my teasng you about your nickname. I'll stop if it bothers you. |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 03:28 p.m. |
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HardToBelieve
 ip: 62.69.37.51 |
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| Three cheers for you Outsider. (perhaps we should all call you Insider, There's real affection in that, thanks WS) You are absolutely right to insist on the market price. There is nothing unfair about that at all. It is unfair to expect you to accept below market price when you will need the money to buy another home. Once again, sorry for the short post as I'm tired following my working day. I don't think it matters what reason you give to your parents about not going to the party. Be prepared for them to resent it whatever you say. The main thing is for YOUR sake - be firm and quiet, and treat any insults or attempted blackmail with a dignified refusal to play their game. |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 08:47 p.m. |
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Dee Ann
 ip: 207.200.116.72 |
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The Outsider -- You will never be right with your family until they heal their wounds. I would suggest you do what you want to do and think is right for you and your family. I know it's painful to leave family of origin, but maybe you're leaving only dreams of a close family and not the real thing. Accepting the truth is painful until you do it and then it's FREEING. I would also tell them the truth about being uncomfortable always being the family bad guy.In my family of origin, there were three weddings right in a row and I didn't go to anyone of the 3. I thought about it but then thought there might be some tension, and then maybe a fight, and who would get blamed? My husband reminded me of some past experiences, bless his sweet heart, and I decided not to go but sent a nice gift. |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 09:17 p.m. |
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the outsider
 ip: 88.19.42.108 |
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| Thank you so much for your posts! As it's been for you WS, your words of support will be a pillow tonight for me too. I do like the Nickname Insider, it's funny and it's a nice one. It's been a very hard day (emotionally). I've been feeling a bit impatient and angry with my children (poor innocent angels!). I couldn't stop thinking about all the lies, their complicity and the simbolism of selling the house to sis (finally I'm leaving the family and she's taking my space. As when we were children she was there first, so for my busy young mum there was no 'room left' to give me). And you are right Htb, I do need the money to buy a new home and thanks also for your advise about the party. We are all been/are scapegoated, but we are all diferent people and our families are different too. I've realised that you WS never talk in present about your family. Does that mean that you've completly stopped the contact? Was that easy?. I don't know where life will take me and how will I feel about it in some years, but I know that now, that's the way it feels, I have to go but... I do love my parents. I've been thinking about all this people in the world who may suffer mental illness related to them being scapegoated and who will live their lives carrying all this blame that is not theirs, hating themselves. It makes me sad, but I also feel very lucky that I have the knowledge and the choice to change things for myself. |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 09:54 p.m. |
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the outsider
 ip: 88.19.42.108 |
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[quote]Dee Ann (10 Feb, 2007 09:17 p.m.): The Outsider -- You will never be right with your family until they heal their wounds. I would suggest you do what you want to do and think is right for you and your family. I know it's painful to leave family of origin, but maybe you're leaving only dreams of a close family and not the real thing. Accepting the truth is painful until you do it and then it's FREEING. I would also tell them the truth about being uncomfortable always being the family bad guy. quote]You're right Dee, that's how it feels right now. But, maybe yes... just leaving dreams of a close family (sigh!) |
| Date: 10 Feb, 2007 on 10:03 p.m. |
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